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JOURNEY TO THE UNDERWORLD

THE 12 GATES OF HELL

Notes from the DVD, Journey to the Underworld by Perry Stone http://voe.org

Phi 2:10  that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

Phi 2:11  and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

These verses denote the three realms: on earth, in heaven, under the earth. There are chambers under the earth.

 

Between Genesis 1 verse one where God created the heavens and the earth and all was perfect and verse 2 where the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep, Lucifer and his angels were cast from heaven and God prepared hell to imprison them. Hell was created for the devil and his angels. That is their destination. It was not created for mankind. We have a choice. They do not.

 

Tahome: means the abyss, underground chamber under the earth. A place to confine fallen angels.

 

Psa 71:20  You, who have shown us many and bitter troubles, you will let me live. You will bring us up again from the depths of the earth.  See also Job 28:14.

 

Chambers under the earth:

Sheol OT Hebrew      hell or grave

Hades OT Hebrew     unseen world of departed spirits Rev. 6:8

Gehennah NT Greek  Valley of Gehenna outside of Jerusalem (trash dump of Jerusalem) where Judas hung himself. Place of perpetual fire. The Canaanites worshipped Molech and caused their children to be sacrificed in the fire of this idol’s belly.  Now it is abortion that sacrifices the innocent to the god of convenience. Innocent blood. God hears their cries. Pro 6:16  There are six things which the LORD hates; yes, seven which are an abomination to him:

Pro 6:17  haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood;

Tartarus: NT Greek    Lowest chamber where the worst spirits are chained in darkness; the fallen angels who went in unto human women and caused the birth of giants and monsters. Linked to the sea. 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6.

Abyss: NT Greek      The deep, bottomless pit

 

Under Gehennah is Sheol an underground chamber.

 

Isaiah 66:24  They shall go forth, and look on the dead bodies of the men who have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring to all flesh.

It is believed this will be in the area of the Dead Sea as also Rev.19:20

Rev 19:20  The beast was taken, and with him the false prophet who worked the signs in his sight, with which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.

Perry Stone who gave this sermon in a DVD from the banks of the Dead Sea describes that the smell of sulfur is constantly there.

 

Location of the Chambers:

Under the earth: Numbers 16:30

Under the mountains Jonah 2:6

Under the waters Job 26:5

 

Numbers 16:32-33  And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. See also 2 Peter 2:4, Psalm 55:15 and Ezekiel 31: 16 –17

Deuteronomy 32:22 Foundations of the mountains

Jon 2:1  Then Yonah prayed to the LORD, his God, out of the fish's belly.

Jon 2:2  He said, "I called because of my affliction to the LORD. He answered me. Out of the belly of She'ol I cried. You heard my voice.

Jon 2:3  For you threw me into the depths, in the heart of the seas. The flood was all around me. All your waves and your billows passed over me.

Jon 2:4  I said, 'I have been banished from your sight; yet I will look again toward your holy temple.'

Jon 2:5  The waters surrounded me, even to the soul. The deep was around me. The weeds were wrapped around my head.

Jon 2:6  I went down to the bottoms of the mountains. The earth barred me in forever: yet have you brought up my life from the pit, LORD my God.

Jon 2:7  "When my soul fainted within me, I remembered the LORD. My prayer came in to you, into your holy temple.

Jon 2:8  Those who regard lying vanities forsake their own mercy.

Jon 2:9  But I will sacrifice to you with the voice of thanksgiving. I will pay that which I have vowed. Salvation belongs to the LORD."

Jon 2:10  The LORD spoke to the fish, and it vomited out Yonah on the dry land.

Jonah drowned and died and then was swallowed by a great fish. His spirit and soul traveled to hell. He was in Sheol. He went down to the bottoms of the mountains. The earth with her bars was about him.

 

Matt. 12:39-40 For as Yonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

 

Psalm 69:15  Let not the waterflood overflow me, neither let the deep swallow me up, and let not the pit shut her mouth upon me.

 

Job 38:8, 16,17  Or who shut up the sea with doors. Hast thou entered into the springs of sea? Or has thou walked in the search of the depth? Have the gates of death been opened to thee? Or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?

Death has doors and gates.

Job 26:5,6 Dead things are formed under the waters, and the inhabitants thereof. Hell is naked before him and destruction (Abaddon) has no covering.

Job 17:16  They shall go down to the bars of the pitt, when our rest together is in the dust.

 

Bermuda Triangle: white water, green fog Bahamas and Bermuda

Dragon or Devil’s Triangle: Off coast of Guam and Japan.

The Bermuda Triangle has a very deep trench San Juan measuring 27 thousand feet deep. Near Guam is a trench 36 thousand feet deep.

 

There are grids of equal distance of where magnetic fields are located in the waters of the earth. There are 12 of them. Some believe that these lead to portals or entrances to somewhere under the earth. All of these areas have a strange pyramid shape to them and 11 of 12 are located in the seas around the world.

 

A man named Ivan Sanderson made the claim to have discovered 12 magnetic vibrations around the world at 32 degree intervals. The include the Bermuda triangle and the Devil’s Sea.

Once is located at the bottom of the Persian Gulf in the Arabian Sea 10,000 feet deep. There are also 4 angels bound (Rev. 9:14) in the Euphrates River. Luke 8:31   Isaiah 14:15

 

In 1977 or 78 there was a Pastor Roland Gardner who went on a 2 week diving expedition as a chaplain in the area of the Bahamas and Bermuda. They were searching all the electro magnetic activity in the area. A man was with him the name of Wingate and a man who was the brother of Jacques Cousteau the famous French diver.

 

It looked like an ancient city had once existed under the waters in a certain area. About 20 minutes later he came up from the water and according to Pastor Gardner who was on the boat, the brother sat there on the boat and said, “I’m not going back down there!” He was asked why.

“Because I heard the sound of groanings and somebody dragging chains underneath those stones and sometimes a yellow smoke comes up. It could be one of the entrances to the underworld.”

 

 

Mat 12:43  When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.

 

The dry places mentioned here are the Judean wilderness. Unclean spirits walk there. This wilderness has the DEAD SEA at its center. This the lowest place to be found on land and is closest to the land based chambers of hell. It is hell’s main entrance. The Dead Sea area is linked to fire and is where the 5 cities of the plain were once located including Sodom and Gomorrah. The Dead Sea is comprised of salt and smells of sulfur. At intervals balls of a tarry substance rise to the surface. In the past these balls were harvested and used as fuel for heat.

 

During the Millennium people will go and observe those in hell. This opening will be in the Dead Sea. One half of the Dead Sea will soon dry up. It is now divided by ridges of salt.

Isa 66:24  And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

See also Isaiah 34:9-10, Rev. 19:20, Rev. 14:11 and Mark 9:43

 

The other half will be healed and fish will be in it. See Ezekiel 47:8-11.

 

Jesus will return to save the Jewish Remnant hiding in Petra. (Bosrah) See: Isaiah 34:4-6.

Isaiah 63:1-3. Jesus returns to earth to Bosrah for the Jewish Remnant. This is where His vesture becomes dipped in blood. When hH returns to heaven for His armies his vesture is already dipped in blood then He comes with His armies to judge the earth at the battle of Armageddon. Rev. 19:11, 12:13-17 and Isaiah 63:4.

 

Summary: The 12 gates of hell are located at 32 degree intervals around the earth. When an unbeliever dies he/she goes to the entrance closest to the region in which they have lived. There are degrees of punishment just as there are degrees of reward in Heaven. People like Hitler, Judas, and terrorists throughout history will be in the lowest part of Hell which is Tartarus. Those who go through ignorance will have the least punishment. 

 

Hell is real. Heaven is real. Both are forever. Decide today which one you want to go to. The choice is yours.

Jesus died to save us from the penalty of sin. He took that penalty for us. Only by trusting in Him can one be assured a place with Him in Heaven. Repent of all sin and put your trust in Him today.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hell and the Hollow Earth 

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The included link  gives futhur detail on the beliefs in Islam about the "Jin." Much of it is correct. It is a secular link but worth the study.

Muslims call this a "Jin".  This was reportedly only seen when the film was processed.   This is said to have been taken near the Hira Cave, Medinah, Saudia Arabia during Haj.  Of note, according to Muslims, this is the same cave where the Qu'ran (5 verses of the Surah Al-Alaque were revealed to him) began to be revealed to Mohammed.  The Cave is situated on mount Al-Noor on way to Mina near Makkah and its peak is visible from a great distance.  Islamic sources give this credibility here.  This Islamic site says; "unbelievable miracle".  This Christian-Jewish site says, "Unholy miracle".

What was in the Cave with Mohammed?  Whatever it was certainly convinced Mohammed to lead souls away from Jesus, who is the way, the truth and the light... It convinced Mohammed to give billions of people a system (Islam) that offers no way to redemption.  Islam allows no freedom and. is actually cruel towards women. This alone should make them realize that it is Satan behind Islam who wishes to enslave Muslims to turn them away from the truth.  Look everywhere in the Muslim Qu'ran and you will not find one attribute of love by Allah.

John 4:8 and 16 we read; "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, and have everlasting life."

Jesus said; "False messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect".

It is the 26th day of Ramadan in the year 610 A.D., a handsome man named Muhammad is meditating in a cave on Mount Hira while under stress - as he was hiding from his enemies. Fear grips him as he tries to sort out the visions and voices washing over him; and terrified that he is possessed, he leaves the cave to return to Mecca. The day that will transform Muhammad's life--and change the world and countless souls forever.

DRILLING INTO HELL

I called Trinity Broadcasting headquarters and asked about the story. I was transferred to a woman who said, 'Oh yes, it's true all right. We've got documentation. It's in our latest newsletter.'

I was on the network's mailing list, so I looked through a pile of recent mail and found the article. The newsletter said the details had come from the translation of an article in a Finnish newspaper named 'Ammennusatia'. It claimed:

A geological group who drilled a hole about 14.4 kilometers deep in the crust of the earth are saying that they heard human screams. Screams have been heard from the condemned souls from earth's deepest hole. Terrified scientists are afraid they have let loose the evil powers of hell up to the earth's surface.

'The information we are gathering is so surprising, that we are sincerely afraid of what we might find down there,' stated Dr Azzacov, the manager of the project in remote Siberia.

According to the story, the geologists were dumbfounded. After they had drilled several kilometers through the earth's crust, the drill bit suddenly began to rotate wildly. 'There is only one explanation,' said Dr Azzacov. 'The deep center of the earth is hollow!' The report continued:

The second surprise was the high temperature they discovered in the earth's center. 'The calculations indicate the given temperature was about 1,100 degrees Celsius, or over 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit,' Azzacov pointed out. 'This is far more then we expected. It seems almost like an inferno of fire is brutally going on in the center of the earth.'

'The last discovery was nevertheless the most shocking to our ears, so much so that the scientists are afraid to continue the project. We tried to listen to the earth's movements at certain intervals with supersensitive microphones, which were let down through the hole. What we heard turned those logically thinking scientists into a trembling ruins. It was a sometimes a weak, but high pitched sound which we thought to be coming from our own equipment,' explained Dr Azzacov.

'But after some adjustments we comprehended that indeed the sound came from the earth's interior. We could hardly believe our own ears. We heard a human voice, screaming in pain. Even though one voice was discernible, we could hear thousands, perhaps millions, in the background, of suffering souls screaming. After this ghastly discovery, about half of the scientists quit because of fear. Hopefully, that which is down there will stay there,' Dr Azzacov added.

According to the Trinity Broadcasting Network newsletter, the Finnish article had been given to them by a Texas evangelist, R.W. Schambach, who was a frequent guest on their network.

We checked with Schambach's office and were assured that the story was 'absolutely true' and had been substantiated. They said they had an article from a 'respected scientific journal' in Finland, as well as a letter from a Norwegian man, Age Rendalen, who had confirmed it. Rendalen had sent his letter directly to Trinity Broadcasting Network and the details he revealed added a new dimension to the story.

Rendalen told the network that he had visited United States a few weeks earlier and happened upon their telecast about the Drilling to Hell story. He wrote:

I must confess that I laughed when I heard your account... I did not believe one word of it, and commented to my friend that Americans sure were gullible to believe that hell could be physically located to a hole in the ground. I cannot even begin to tell you what a shock it was to me when I returned to Norway and found the newspapers full of reports about this incident. I knew immediately that if there was a hell, I for sure would end up in it. A tremendous fear took hold of me, and for two nights I dreamed about fire and screams until I surrendered to God and committed my life to his hands for safe-keeping.

In the letter, Rendalen went on to encourage the network not to let 'skeptics' interfere with their telling of the story. He included a copy and translation of what he claimed was an article from Norway's largest and most reputable newspaper, with more information about the drilling. Rendalen's translation of the article told of opposition to the drilling by Russian atheists, as well as government intimidation to keep the scientists from telling the rest of the world about their discovery. The account, which drew on the eyewitness testimony of a Mr Nummedal, also added a new detail:

What really unnerved the Soviets, apart from the voice recordings, was the appearance that same night of a fountainhead of luminous gas shooting up from the drill site, and out of the midst of this incandescent cloud pillar a brilliant being with bat wings revealed itself with the words (in Russian): 'I have conquered,' emblazoned against the dark Siberian sky.

'The incident was absolutely unreal; the Soviets cried out in terror,' says Mr Nummedal. Later that night, he saw ambulance crews circulating in the community. A driver he knew told him that they had been told to sedate everybody with a medication known to erase short term memory. The Soviets use this drug in the treatment of shock victims.

So we now had not only a story about drilling into hell, but an additional version with a bat-like creature making an appearance.

My staff and I decided to roll up our shirt sleeves and trace the story as far as we could, especially since we had the names of newspapers and at least one individual who might know the facts.

The Finnish newspaper 'Ammennusastia,' which is quoted in nearly every account of the story, is located in an area called Levasjoki. We had a phone conversation with a staff member who told us the publication is not a 'respected newspaper' or a 'scientific journal', as we had been told, but a monthly publication of a group of Finnish Christians. The Drilling to Hell story, he said, had been based on the word of mouth recollection of another staff member, who had remembered reading it as a 'major article' in a Finnish daily newspaper called 'Etela Soumen'.

We contacted this newspaper and at first they couldn't recall or find the story. However, we later received a call saying they had discovered that the tale had appeared in their paper. It was not in an article, however, but in a feature section that included letters from readers who could write about almost anything they wished.

Through the newspaper, we tracked down the person who wrote the letter with the Drilling to Hell story. He was a kind, elderly man who, in spite of being reluctant to talk with us initially, told us through an interpreter that he couldn't vouch for the credibility of the story. He got it, he said, from a Christian newsletter called 'Vaeltajat', which was published by a group of Finnish missionaries.

We next contacted 'Vaeltajat'. The editor said the story had been printed in their July 1989 issue. Where did he hear about it? He had received it from one of their readers, who claimed it had appeared in a newsletter called 'Jewels of Jericho', published by a group of Jewish Christians in California. And that is where the Finnish trail came to an end.

One thing was clear at this point: The Drilling to Hell story was looking and smelling like a pretty typical urban legend. It was sensational, impossible to document, and only had life because of all the small publications that were quoting one another's unsubstantiated stories.

2000 PEOPLE HAVE FOUND CHRIST!'

On 6th February 1990, a listener of mine sent me a letter. She had videotaped and documented all three occasions when this story was discussed on the Christian TV show put out by the network. On 29th January 1990, the show host is documented as saying:

Let me just say, all of you that have written me all those nasty letters about the 'hole in hell', let me tell you I finally got the newspaper article which is from 'The World Weekly'. This is an international newspaper that has been translated into English from Finnish. 'Scientists fear they've opened gates of hell! Geologists drilling nine-mile hole hear human shrieks.'

I got a letter today from a geologist in Oklahoma and he's really giving me a rough time. He says that there isn't anything that could drill that deep. Folks, I'm just reporting what people have been sending to me and I don't know if this is true or not. I know one thing, if this is a trick of the Devil, he sure has blown it, because I know of about 2,000 people that have found Christ because of it!

True or false, I'll tell you what I'm doing, though. We're now going to do some investigative reporting of our own and we're going to check with the Finnish government and the Department of the Interior and we're really going to follow this up and see if they really did drill a hole nine miles down there, if they really did have a microphone down there, if they really did hear human shrieks of agony and pain as this newspaper article and as did many letters I have received from over there have indicated to us. If I'm wrong and they're right, I've got nothing to lose. But if I'm right and you're wrong, you've got everything to lose.

There are a couple of postscripts to this incident. One is that the respected magazine, 'Biblical Archaeology Review', printed a story about the Drilling to Hell story, thinking it was so outrageous that readers would get a kick out of it. Many of the readers took the article seriously, however, and either started passing it around as substantiation of the story, or wrote to the magazine to complain that it shouldn't have given it respectability.

Secondly, in August of 1990, I was contacted by the pastor of a small church in Flagstaff, Arizona, who informed me that he had proof that this story was true. Apparently, a man from his church, who was believed to be a PhD in Physics from MIT, came forward in private to claim that he was a scientist who had been on a secret mission in Russia for the past year and had met with Mikhail Gorbachev several times. He verified that the Drilling to Hell story was indeed true. He claimed:

A hole was drilled deep into the crust of the earth in Siberia and a large cavity was found.

How did this story originate? Again, we will never really know. It is possible that somewhere in the world there has been a spooky experience during deep drilling operations. I don't know. According to an August 1989 article in 'Science' magazine, there is a Russian deep hole drilling project in Kola, near Murmansk, about 150 miles north of the Arctic Circle. Another German deep drilling experiment in north-east Bavaria has discovered warmer temperatures than were expected at certain drilling levels, although nothing even close to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

http://www.rense.com/general58/investigatingthedrilling.htm

Whether the above article is a hoax or not it still has a basis in truth. See below:

Whether hoax or not it is still true. See the proof in Isaiah 66:24, Mark 9:43-49, Rev. 14:9-11.    All flesh - natural men on the earth will be permitted to look into eternal hell, at certain openings, and see the punishment of rebels forever as a perpetual warning against sin and transgression.   The carcases in Isaiah are the bodies of men in eternal hell which will never destroyed - bodies that will have been resurrected to immortality or deathlessness so that they may be punished for deeds done in the body before death (v 24). These eternal bodies in hell are considered dead carcases because of being without the life of God given to the resurrected saints. 

 

This refers to all men of all ages who have died in sin and have been sent to eternal hell where their worm will not die and the fire will not be quenched. They will be an abhorrence to all the flesh living on the new earth. The purpose of this opening to hell will be to cause coming generations to abhor sin and its consequences.

 

When natural men can actually see into eternal hell it will be a great warning to them to walk in the ways of God, not only men in the new earth but angels also and ALL OTHER BEINGS will be able to look and see how horrible the punishment of sin can be (Rev. 14:9-11)

Horrifying as the thought may be,  the view may be God's best method of keeping eternal generations in line with His laws and commandments as they progress in the new earth in the eternity future.

I got these notes from my Dakes Bible (Finis Jennings Dake) which has a whole Bible study that goes with the King James version Bible. It is what we had in Bible school and John Hagee often refers to it. Anyway, I have a whole study on HEAVEN and HELL on my website. See links under Heaven...Hell...Hell and the Hollow earth. Three separate links. Deep Mindquest also has a whole page on my website called DEEP'S LINKS which also has a lot on the subject. http://www.uforanks.com/index.htm This is from a message in my group: ForbiddenPlanetEarth@yahoogroups.com 10/10/04

 

 



 


Matt. 12:40….For as Jonas was 3 days and 3 nights in the whale’s belly: so shall the Son of Man be 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth.  

Note: The lower parts of the earth (Eph. 4:7-11) and hell (Ps. 16:10; Acts 2:27; I Pet. 3:19; Heb 2: 14-15) Luke 16:23, 26 and Jonah 3:1-10 4:11  Luke 11:32 

6 ways Heart is used in Scripture 

  1. Physical pump
  2. Soul affections
  3. The conscience
  4. Human Nature
  5. The mind
  6. The center of anything.  Exodus 15:18    Matt. 12:40
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Comment:   Arthur Conan Doyle through his character Sherlock Holmes said this: It is a capital mistake to theorize before you have all the evidence. Insensibly, one begins to twist the facts (watch out Hollow earth fanatics) to suit the theories, instead of theories to suit facts. It biasis the judgement. 

I didn’t begin writing until the evidence was so glaring I had to write. (B. Fox) 

Ephesians 4:9 (Jesus was not asleep in the heart of the earth) “Now that HE ascended what is it but that HE also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?” 

HE liberated the righteous immortal souls from captivity in the lower parts of the earth. He descended not only from deity to humanity and from humanity to infamy and death (Phil. 2:5-11) but also into the lower parts of the earth into hell itself to conquer hell and liberate captive souls from Satan. (those who had died waiting for His resurrection. They could not be resurrected until HE was) 

1 Peter 3:19-20 By which also HE went and preached unto the spirits in prison: which sometimes were disobedient…… 

Luke   16: 23, 26  And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom

26 And beside all this, between us and you a great gulf is fixed: so they which would pass from hence to you cannot neither can they pass to us that would come from thence.

                                                         DEEP DULCE BASE

 Commander Zxavier <commander_zxavier@t...>
Date:  Fri Oct 17, 2003  4:42 pm
Subject:  An Alien/Black Ops Officer Speaks Out: What is Really Going On Underground?

 

An Alien/Black Ops Officer Speaks Out

What is Really Going On Underground?

http://www.mutanex.com/ultra7.html

Compiled by Agent ArmorLux

The following is a list of questions that were directed to former Dulce
Base Security Officer Thomas Edwin Castello approximately a year before
his disappearance. They are followed by his responses:

QUESTION - When exactly was the Archuleta installation constructed?

ANSWER - I heard Dulce was started in 1937-38 by the Army engineers,
enlarged over the years, most recent work was completed 1965-66 to
connect tunnels to the Page [Arizona] Base, site of one of the older
underground facilities. The four corners base is called PERICA. Most of
the Native Americans living in that area are aware of that base, and
could tell us about the underground life forms that frequently are
spotted near those communities, Bigfoot, etc.

Q -- By what means was the installation constructed? Are you familiar
with the alleged developments made by the Rand Corporation of a highly-efficient
bore or mole machine capable of melting rock using nuclear powered
wolfram-graphite tipped 'drill-cones'?



A -- According to several senior maintenance workers, part of it was
blasted by nuclear devices in the sixties. There are sections, like the
shuttle tunnels, that were formed by an advanced tunneling machine that
leaves the tunnel walls smooth. The finished walls in those tubes
resemble polished black glass.

Q -- By WHOM was the Dulce installation originally constructed?

A -- Nature started the caverns. The Draco used the caverns and tunnels
for centuries. Later, through RAND Corporation plans, it was enlarged
repeatedly. The original caverns included ice caves and sulfur springs
that the 'aliens' found perfect for their needs. The Dulce caverns rival
Carlsbad caverns in size.

Q -- Are the various electromagnetically-controlled air or space craft
-- that have been seen leaving from and arriving at Mt. Archuleta --
manned by humans, the 'alien entities', or both?

A -- Archuleta Mesa is a minor area... the craft leave and are stored in
five areas. One is SE of DULCE, one near Durango Co., one at Taos, N. M.,
and the main fleet is stored at LOS ALAMOS.

Q -- Others have suggested that some of the entities below Dulce are not
of 'extraterrestrial' ORIGIN, and that they are actually descended from
saurian or reptiloid beings such as the Velociraptors or
Stenonychosaurus Equallus -- a 'serpentine' race or races similar to
that hinted at in the third chapter of the book of Genesis?

A -- Yes, some 'reptoids' are native to this planet. The ruling caste of
'aliens' ARE reptilian. The beige or white beings are called The Draco.
Other reptilian beings are green, and some are brown. They were an
ancient race on Earth, living underground. It may have been one of the
Draconian beings that 'tempted' Eve in the Garden of Eden. Reptoids
rightly consider themselves "native Terrans." Perhaps they are the ones
we call the Fallen Angels. Maybe not, either way, we are considered the
'squatters' on Earth.

Q -- Where do the little grey Aliens fit in?

A -- They work for, and are controlled by the Draco. There are other
gray skinned beings that are not in league with the Draco.



Q -- Did you ever talk to any of the 'Aliens' at the Base?

A -- Since I was the Senior Security Technician at that base, I had to
communicate with them on a daily basis. If there were any problems that
involved security or video camera's, I was the one they called. It was
the reptilian "working caste" that usually did the physical labor in the
lower levels at Dulce. Decisions involving that caste were usually made
by the white Draco. When human workers caused problems for the working
caste, the reptoids went to the white Draconian 'boss', and the Draco
called me. At times, it felt like it was a never ending problem. Several
human workers resented the "no nonsense" or "get back to work" attitude
the working caste lives by. When needed, intervention became a vital
tool. The biggest problem were human workers who foolishly wandered
around near the "OFF LIMITS" areas of the "Alien Section." I guess it's
human nature to be curious and to wonder what is past the barriers. Too
often someone found a way to bypass the barriers and nosed around. The
camera's near the entrance usually stopped them before they got
themselves in serious trouble. A few times I had to formerly request the
return of a human worker.

Q -- Are there other sites tied-in to the 'shuttle network' other than
those which you mentioned, and if so, where are the entrances?

A -- WHERE!?! EVERYWHERE! THEY CRISS-CROSS THE WORLD AS AN ENDLESS
SUBTERRANEAN HIGHWAY. LIKE A FREEWAY, EXCEPT THIS ONE IS UNDERGROUND...
The subterranean highway in America is like a freeway except it's
underground. That highway depends on electric motors for the paved roads,
and it is for limited travel. There is another style of transit for
freight and for passengers that is for rapid travel. That world wide
network is called the "Sub-Global System." It has "check points" at each
country entry. There ARE shuttle tubes that 'shoot' the trains at
incredible speeds using a mag-lev and vacuum method. They travel at a
speed that excels the speed of sound. Part of your question involves the
location of entrances to that base. The easiest way to answer is to say
every state in the U.S.A. has them. Frequently, the entrances are
camouflaged as sand quarries, or mining operations. Other complex
portals are found on military bases. New Mexico and Arizona have the
largest amounts of entrances followed by California, Montana, Idaho,
Colorado, Pennsylvania, Kansas, Arkansas and Missouri. Of all the state's
Florida and North Dakota have the least amount of entrances. Wyoming
has a road that opens directly into the subterranean freeway. That road
is no longer in use, but could be reactivated if they decide to do so,
with minimal cost. It's located near Brooks Lake.

Q -- Are there any 'bases' in the state of Utah? Have you heard anything
about an alleged underground installation within the Wasatch Mountains...?


A -- Salt Lake, Lake Powell Area, Dark Canyon, Dougway Grounds, Modena,
Vernal. All have exits there. Others too.

Q -- Does the Mt. Archuleta "shuttle system" connect with a shuttle
system which allegedly radiates from Mt. Shasta in northern California?

A -- Yes. Mt. Shasta is a major site of Alien - Elder Race - Reptilian
Race - Human meetings. Beginning Cleveland, Grover every president in U.S.
history have visited Telos City. Truman was supposed to have visited
the Lower Realms as a High Archon on Earth. He was supposed to have met
the King of the World there, and gave him the "Keys to the U.S.A."
Truman received assurance to new high tech knowledge, and victory over
all enemies on Earth. He then was introduced to Samaza and Khoach,
aliens from Bootes and Tiphon, both reptilian 'kings' or Embassadors.
Truman updated the '100 Treaty' and requested magnetic advance, space
knowledge and experiments. Khoach agreed, Samaza partially agreed. He
exchanged hostages for genetic experiments and magnetic advance, but
vetoed space and beam weaponry.

Q -- Did you notice any involvement of high-level Freemasons,
Rosicrucians or Jesuits within the underground installation and/or with
the aliens?

A - Yes I did, but that is a loaded question, and I won't comment
further. I'm not a Mason, or member of any other secret fraternal group.
There is one organization I am a member of. That group is commonly
called the "Central Unit." It is a pleasure to tell you that I AM a
member of the "Sub-Galactic League" of Costa Rica.

Q -- Is there any truth to the allegations that the CIA/'Aliens' have
established 'bases' on the moon, and also Mars?

A -- I've HEARD that too, but I haven't seen proof with my own eyes. The
'aliens' do allegedly have bases on several moons of Jupiter and Saturn.
The CIA operates in other COUNTRIES, but I've never heard they operate
on other PLANETS.

Q -- Have you heard any hints or rumors suggesting that there may be
lower levels beneath the ULTRA-7 level of the Dulce base, and also,
where these might lead to and what they might consist of?

A -- YES. Your guess is as good as mine... Sure, there was lots of TALK
but that doesn't mean it's there. However, I will tell you I saw
elevators that were "off limits" unless you had an UMBRA or higher
security clearance. At that base, information is supplied to me at a "need
to know" basis ONLY! My clearance was ULTRA-7.

Q -- Some insist that the U.S./Secret government has developed it's own
disk-craft based largely upon top secret antigravity experiments carried
out by the Nazi-German scientists during World War II. Have you heard
anything referring to this?

A -- When I was working in Photo-security, heard a lot of talk, never
saw the proof, but once in the Air Force I developed a roll of film that
showed a craft LIKE ADAMSKI'S, WITH A SWASTIKA ON THE SIDE.

Q -- Tom, did you have access to the alien craft? Were you ever inside
any of them?

A -- Yes, I frequently saw them in the garages, there are quite a few of
them. The main fleet is stored at Los Alamos. Yes, I entered several
crafts. There were two things that stick in my mind, the odd spongy
feeling of the floors, and the unusual pinkish purple color of the
lighting. The crew stated the floor becomes ridged in flight, and the
purple tint of the lighting changes to bright blue white. The entire
inside of the air craft are scaled down in size, when compared to the
average human. The halls were curved and narrow, but some how, when
inside it appears bigger than it looks. Certain areas, the outermost
sections, almost felt and looked alive. I was never taken up in one.

Q -- Can you give me more information on the reptilian race, what do
they do on the sixth level?

A -- The worker caste does the daily chores, mopping the latex floors,
cleaning the cages, bringing food to the hungry people and other species.
It is their job to formulate the proper mixture for the type one and
type two beings that the Draco Race has created. The working caste work
at the labs as well as at the computer banks. Basically speaking, the
reptilian races are active at all levels of the Dulce Base. There are
several different 'races' of aliens that work on the east section of
level six. That section is commonly called "the alien section." The
Draco are the undisputed masters of the 5-6-7 levels. The humans are
second in command of those levels. I had to ARGUE with one large
Draconian 'boss' frequently. His name is difficult to verbalize,
Khaarshfashst [pronounced throaty kkhhah-sshh-fahsh-sst]. I usually
called him 'Karsh,' and he hated it.

The Draconian leaders are very formal when talking to the human race.
These ancient beings consider us a lower race. Karsh called me "Leader
Castello," but it was used in a sarcastical way. However the worker
caste is friendly enough, as long as you allow them to speak first. They
will answer if you address them. They are very cautious beings, and
consider most humans to be hostile. They always seem surprised when they
found many of the humans were open and trustworthy. There is no
fraternizing with the aliens off hours. It is forbidden to speak to any
alien race without a clear business oriented reason. Humans can talk to
humans, and aliens can speak to aliens, but that is as far as it goes.
At the work site, however, it's different. There is "free speech" in the
labs. The camaraderie found in the labs also reaches the computer banks
section. In those areas, everybody talks to anybody. However,
everything changes the minute you cross the threshold of the hall.
Instantly, all conversations become strictly formal. Hard as it was,
several times I had to arrest some one, simply because they spoke to an
alien. It's a strange place.



Q -- Exactly what first made you aware that something was wrong at Dulce?
Seems to me that a place as obviously horrible as this one wouldn't
need an Einstein to know that this is a CRIME site! What took you so
long? Are you the guy who blew the whistle?

A -- There are several things you should know about. I took an oath,
under the penalty of death, that no matter what I saw or heard I would
never divulge the information. Also, I signed a waiver that states I
would willingly give up my life if I was found guilty of 'treason'. At
the Dulce Base treason is "ANYTHING that mentions the details of daily
operations at this facility, when outside the confinement of this base."
When I first arrived, a "need to know" policy was in effect. The story
the 'honchos' told us was that "this is a Tri-Biotransfer Facility with
Advanced Technology, doing advanced adventurous methodology for medical
and mental gains." Which is a fancy way of saying they do really risky
things with human life just to see what would happen. If a medical cure
happens, it will be heralded on the surface of the earth as a marvelous
new cure, saying it was found after years of research at some well known
medical lab. The real story of the cure is never explained. After all,
the Dulce Base IS A SECRET FACILITY! These people are very good at what
they do. They do not tell the truth about the unfortunate people that
end up in "Nightmare Hall."

I worked with aliens. With that in mind, you should get the idea of the
secrecy and the security at that place. Yes, I know this was not the
usual hospital type job site, but in the beginning I 'bought' the whole
package. I was reminded daily by intercom, in the elevators, that "this
site does high risk advanced medical and drug testing to cure insanity,
please, never speak to the inmates, it can destroy years of work." I'm
sensible, when doctors say don't speak to them, who was I to destroy the
delicate situation? But one man some how caught my eye. He repeatedly
stated that he was George S---- and that he had been kidnapped and he
was sure someone was searching for him. I don't know why he sticks in my
mind, I found I was remembering his face, thinking he sure didn't look
or sound insane, but many inmates said that. The next weekend I
convinced a friend of mine, a cop, to run a check on the guy, saying I
had a run in with him and was curious. I didn't mention the base at all.
It was a sickening feeling when the computer confirmed that George S.
was missing. What's worse, the cops thought he was just another guy that
got tired of the daily grind and split.

That was the beginning. Am I the one that blew the whistle? No. The next
Monday, I searched for George, but he was gone. There were no records
that explained what happened to him. It was another security officer
that came to me saying he and some lab workers wanted an off duty
meeting at one of the tunnels. Curiosity took over and I said OK. That
night, about nine men showed up. They said they knew they were risking
me turning them in but they wanted to show me some things they thought I
should see. One by one they showed records that proved many inmates
were missing people. There were newspaper clippings, and even photos
that they had some how smuggled into the base. They hoped to smuggle
them back out, without me turning them in to head honchos. I could see
the fear in their faces as they spoke. One man stated he would rather
lose his life by trying, than to lose his soul by not doing anything at
all. It was that remark that turned the tide. I told them about George
and the things I found out about him. After a few hours we pledged to
attempt to expose the Dulce Base.

Q -- The name Nightmare Hall is descriptive, but surely there was a 'regular'
name, what was it called in the manuals?

A -- In the manuals it was called "The Vivarium". It describes Dulce
Base as a "secured facility for tending bio-forms of all types." In
their report it is retold as "a private subterranean bio-terminal park,
with accommodations for animals, fish, fowl, reptile, and mankind."
After SEEING this 'park' the name Nightmare Hall is far more accurate
than the manual. The 'accommodations' for the inmates at Nightmare Hall
fall short of the pretty picture the manual describes.

Q -- You mentioned one reptilian leader, Khaarshfashst, do you know any
thing about him, like where is he from? Is he from Earth or some other
planet?

A -- His name means "keeper of the laws". They recieve their name after
they reach the "age of awareness". They do not recognize time as an